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Trial by Fire (All We Hold Dear (Sequel) Book 2) rIt s been far too long ago since Iead this to write a critical A Sudden Dawn review however it should beeuired eading for all students in America at the very least Oh how far we have strayed The Republic is where Plato lays down his ideas of an ideal state and its ulers Plato s Utopian state is one which is just and his ideal Dziewczynka rulers are philosophers Presented as a series of dialogue between Socrates and Plato s brothers Adeimantus and Glaucon in eleven parts Plato step by step forms his ideal state Part I and II itsulers Part IV and Part VII their education women s position Part VI and the position of art and poetry Part X in the new state Although some of his views are far fetched and absurd many of them are thought provoking And if you examine carefully you will see some truth in many of his viewpoints especially those elating to imperfect societies discussed in Part IXI truly enjoyed Plato s arguments although I cannot say that I agree with them all There are many insightful views though at the same time given the long years between the time in which it was written and which it was ead some of the arguments are absurd according to modern standards Plato s Utopian state is one that cannot be ealized in eality even Plato had his doubts about it ever being in existence But on close examination on various governance in the world we see instances where views of Plato having been adopted Taking all these into account it is no wonder that The Republic is egarded as the cornerstone of western philosophy The translation I ead was done by Sir Desmond Lee I found it easy to Bayou Country Bloodsport read There were many explanatory notes within that which helped me considerably if not fully to understand the text Overall I loved theead and very happy to say that finally one of my long eading wishes is fulfilled I ve gotten into the habit of dividing up the books I ve ead by whether I ead them before or after Plato s Republic Before The Republic eading was a disorganized activity much the same as wading through a sea of jumbled thoughts and opinions I had no basis from which to select books except by how much they appealed to my na ve tastes But after Esperanza renace reading The Republic it was as if the entire intellectual landscape was put into perspective Reading became a focused activity meant to engage with certain uestions uestion is the key word here because in the end that s what Plato is all about asking theight uestions the important uestions All academic disciplines are organized around a few basic uestions what is the nature of human cognition what are the fundamental laws of the universe and in The Republic Plato touches on almost every one of them That s why shelving the book in the philosophy section doesn t uite do it justice An exhaustive list of the disciplines touched upon in this dialogue would be massive epistemology metaphysics psychology eschatology political science economics art literature music In fact it would be easier naming disciplines that aren t touched uponThat s how Plato lit up the intellectual landscape for me By posing these uestions in their most basic forms and attempting answers he makes it clear which uestions are the important ones in life and how difficult they are to answer And that s why Plato s Republic is the uintessential classic It has everything a classic should have a uniue perspective brilliant ideas engagement with perennial issues and a charming writing style It is the greatest book of perhaps the Western tradition s greatest thinker I don t care who you are you should ead itNevertheless there are some perplexing and frustrating things about Plato For one it "is extraordinarily difficult to figure out where Plato stands in elation to his work Unlike almost "extraordinarily difficult to figure out where Plato stands in American Masters of the Mississippi Gulf Coast: George Ohr, Dusti Bonge, Walter Anderson, Richmond Barthe relation to his work Unlike almost later philosopher Plato didn t write didactic works He puts his ideas sometimes conflicting ideas into the mouths of the people of his day Theesult is a kind of double confusion To what extent are the ideas expressed by Socrates actually Socrates s To what extent are they Plato s To what extent are they Anyone S Perhaps Plato Was Just Fond Of Playing Intellectual s Perhaps Plato was just fond of playing intellectual and creating philosophical pocket dramasAdded to this is a kind of subtle irony that creeps up in several of his dialogues In Phaedrus Plato has Socrates complain about the evils of writing yet Plato obviously loved to write One of Plato s most influential ideas is his theory of forms yet one of the most influential arguments against the theory was put forward by Plato himself In The Republic as well as elsewhere Plato epeatedly euates knowledge with goodness and falsity with evil yet he proposes to found his entire utopia on a massive lie And again in this book Plato puts forward one of the most famous arguments in history against poetry and the arts yet Plato was one of the most artistic of all writers Plato proposes to banish the myths of Homer and Hesiod then Plato ends his magnum opus with his own myth You see these contradictions again and again which leads you to wonder how many of his arguments are meant to be taken seriouslyWhat s some of the arguments put forward in his dialogues are it must be said frustratingly stupid elying on false analogies and several other types of fallacies This would be no mystery if he was a halfwit But the uality of his writing and the originality of his ideas make it clear that he was a genius This again makes you wonder if he is putting forth his ideas in earnestThere are many complaints commonly lodged at Plato and his pupil Aristotle Liberals criticize his hatred of democracy and freedom Moralists complain that he embraced slavery A friend of mine once told me that his philosophy professor called Aristotle the father of Sitzungs-Berichte Der Gesellschaft Naturforschender Freunde Zu Berlin: Jahrgang 1893 (Classic Reprint) racism Scientists such as Carl Sagan disparage Plato s anti empirical and mystical tendencies Nietzsche and his followers condemn Plato for dividing up the world into self evident good and bad The list of complaints can be extended almost endlessly And it should be said there is some justice in all of these criticisms But just you try and found an entire intellectual tradition spanning thousands of years and see if you do any betterIn Plato I find something so valuable that it could outweigh every one of those criticisms Plato s celebration of thinking for its own sake argument for the sake of argument debate for the sake of debate Too often we consider intellectual activity as merely a means to some desirable end howarely we consider that thinking is its own eward Vigorous

is one the keenest joys life And that is why Plato is so valuable why he still has so much to offer our world perhaps now than everA note on justice Even though Plato spills much ink in trying to prove that justice is desirable than injustice I think the eal solution is in Glaucon s speech in Book 2 where Plato manages to hit upon the solution provided by game theory It s worth uoting at lengthMany have believed that to do injustice. Presented in the form of a dialogue between Socrates and three different interlocutors this classic text is an enuiry into the notion of a perfect community and the ideal individual

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Al digressions of course create the dialogue s most memorable metaphors but they are meant to be digressions that add to the core Not the other way aroundAt its most basic level Republic is an effort to forge a consistent and meaningful Resonance of Suffering: Countertransference in Non-Neurotic Structures redefinition of Justice The aret that is explored lies in nothing outward butests solely in the mature The Afterlife of Little Women reason andegard for what is beneficial to the soul Not all the details in these allegories stand up to logical analysis but they are not meant to This is made clear by the fact that The Republic s interlocutors Domesticating Drink: Women, Men, and Alcohol in America, 1870-1940 repeatedly draw attention to the incomplete provisional and at times unsatisfactory nature of their treatment of justice happiness the ideal political community the theory of the ideas the cognitive faculties of human beings etc The inadeuacy of the method we are employing is acknowledged at 4435c d at 6504b d and in many other placesThe Personal Constitution A Constitution of the Perfect LifeThe Perfect State sketched out which is the stub of almost all criticism is only an approximation devised to arrive at the Perfect Man and that is why the so called bad aspects can be deemed acceptable The mistake as stated already is to see it as a purely political treatise while it is in fact a treatise on justice and how to live the perfect life the Constitution of a perfect life He will look at the city which is within him and take heed that no disorder occur in it such as might arise either from superfluity or from want and upon this principle he willegulate his property and gain or spend according to his means In the end the state is not fleshed out enough to Lord Byron at Harrow School: Speaking Out, Talking Back, Acting Up, Bowing Out really form a complete constitution for any state that can exist ineality and not just as an idea But the psychological part it is curious how this part has generated so much less criticism in comparison is we Teaching Machines: Learning from the Intersection of Education and Technology return in the end and all the way in between to the original uestion of how an individual should order his life what his virtues should be It is a political critiue piggy backing on a personal enuiry and hence any commentary of it cannot treat them differently Censorship slaves aristocracy are all wonderful aspects in an individual but not palatable in a state to modern eyes Hence we can only criticize that the greater to smaller euality is not wellealized ie from state individual But then Socrates as above is always eager to make the point about the provisional nature of his metaphor which is only meant to incite thinking and not as an answer that is just not the way to deal with true lovers of truth with true philosophersCheeky counterproposal by the eviewer s alter ego Or all the personal stuff is just a convenient cloak for the political criticism that is the eal purpose After all we cannot forget the historical milieu in which Plato composed it He had enough axes to grind Indeed the we approach certain aspects of the text from analytic and conceptual standpoints the we find that Socrates and his companions make innumerable assumptions and leaps of logic that is not satisfactory or fully justified Each of these can be fairly scrutinized and contested and have been We may aise any number of uestions about its elevance to our experiences and value systems Much of Republic especially its political philosophy argument for Censorship and Social structuring is at odds with modern ideals some The Art of Slow Writing: Reflections on Time, Craft, and Creativity readers will doubtless be dissatisfied with among other things its unapologetic elitism and naive almost laughable confidence in the integrity of philosopherulers Some however may find that its critiue of ancient Athenian society opens the door to meaningful uestions about contemporary cultural practices and priorities And even meaningful uestions on how to organize our inner impulses and "constitutionPhilosopher Be ThyselfWe need to understand that the Platonic Dialogues in principle are not meant to epresent a simple doctrine "Be ThyselfWe need to understand that the Platonic Dialogues in principle are not meant to epresent a simple doctrine can be followed they instead are meant to prepare the way for philosophizing They are not easy guide books to follow They Statistical Inference reuire work from theeader above *And Beyond The Ideas *beyond the ideas That is one of the A Wizard in Love reasons for the dialogue nature in which they are structured Plato s overarching purpose in writing the Republic was to effect a change in hiseaders similar to the change that Glaucon and Adeimantus undergo at Socrates hands in the fictional world of the dialogue This purpose can be summed up in the word protreptic from the Greek protrepein which means turn someone forward hence propel urge on exhort Plato uses literary art which in his case includes but is not limited to philosophical argument to move his eader toward a greater eadiness to adopt a just way of lifeThe dialogues are thus intended to perform the function of a living teacher who makes his students think One must philosophize to understand them One must look at the microcosm of the dialogues as well as the macrocosm of the world that we inhabit simultaneously to understand them It is in this process that the dialogues assist insist and themselves provide a training inWe can only conclude by asking uestions in the true spirit of the dialectic method Can we then say that we are convinced that justice as defined by Socrates is something intrinsically valuable Are we convinced that the just man can be happy even if he does not enjoy a Tigers in Normandy reputation for justice nor any other material benefit in this life or after OR Have Socrates and his companions persuaded us that the ideal city state they describe in Republic is truly the best political community possible Do we believe that Socrates himself thinks so Is that what we take away from such a deep examination of how to live our lives Or do we let the Story of Er guide us back to the truer motives of the interlocutors Ieally do not know as yet but whither the argument may blow thither we go All the criticisms of Plato are valid He Presidential Secrecy and the Law raises straw arguments He manipulates discussions unfairly He doesn t offerealistic solutions And so onBut he is still and for very good eason the most influential philosopher in Western civilization He makes people think Most authors we ead today are trying to persuade us to agree with their point of view Plato not so He wants you to disagree with him He wants you to argue with him He wants you to identify the fallacies in his arguments and some are deliberately fallacious In short he wants you to do the most difficult intellectual exercise there is He wants you to think and to think deeply The other thing to Hume on Religion realize about Plato is that he is an exuisite poet and craftsman There is nothing accidental about what he writes there is nothing superfluous Even the most minute seeming points are there for goodeason Part of the joy of Master Plots: Race and the Founding of an American Literature, 1787-1845 reading Plato for the third fourth fifth time is to see each time a bit about what he is doing and why he is doing it to come closer to appreciating his extraordinary genius and encountering ever deeply this incredible mind. F both women and men as guardians of the people Withemarkable lucidity and deft use of allegory Plato arrives at a depiction of a state bound by harmony and uled by philosopher kin.

ΠολιτείαIs by nature good to suffer injustice evil but that the evil is greater than the good Ie The evil suffered from injustice is greater than the good gained from acting unjustly And so when men have both done and suffered injustice and have had experience of both not being able to avoid the one and obtain the other they think that they had better agree among themselves to have neither hence there arise laws and mutual covenants and that which is ordained by law is termed by them lawful and just This they affirm to be the origin and nature of justice it is a mean or compromise between the best of all which is to do injustice and not be punished and the worst of all which is to suffer injustice without the power of The Widow's Lawman retaliation and justice being at a middle point between the two is tolerated not as a good but the lesser evil and honored byeason of the inability of the men to do injusticeThis view purportedly the common view of justice is game theory in a nutshell Cheating your neighbor is for you the biggest positive since you get their The Story Within resources without having to work But being cheated is the biggest negative since you lose both youresources and the work you invested in procuring them Creating laws to abolish cheating is a sort of compromise avoiding the pain of being cheated at the expense of the gain from cheating That to me seems like the most logical explanation of justiceThis is just one example of why it s First Resorts: Pursuing Pleasure at Saratoga Springs, Newport, Coney Island rewarding toead Plato because even when he s wrong he s God Gave Me a Mulligan: A Journalist's Life in War and Peace right Is the attempt to determine the way of man s life so small a matter in your eyes to determine how life may be passed by each one of us to the greatest advantage 1344d I propose therefore that we inuire into the nature of justice and injustice first as they appear in the State and secondly in the individual proceeding from the greater to the lesser and comparing them 2368e 369a The Republic An Apology The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato Alfred North WhiteheadThe Famous Republic The Republic is eithereverenced Elephant Slaves and Pampered Parrots: Exotic Animals in Eighteenth-Century Paris reviled or just plain ignored Though it keepsesurfacing it has been pushed back often being accused of bigotry The American Academic Profession: Transformation in Contemporary Higher Education racism elitism casteism anti democratic nature the list is endless But it is beyond doubt one of the preeminent philosophical works and has been uotedeferenced or adapted by almost all of the major thinkers since The ideas of Socrates have had an afterlife that is as long and varied as the thousand year journey envisioned for souls in the famous Story of Er It is impossible to catalogue the full list of impacts but Whitehead s uote introductory to this The Rise and Fall of the Biopsychosocial Model: Reconciling Art and Science in Psychiatry review gives adeuate flavor The practical influence of Republic is difficult to gauge than its impact on the theorizing of later thinkers over the centuries individuals have discovered in Plato s works the inspiration for undertaking political or social or educationaleform and have used it as the springboard for much The Arena: An Offering to Contemporary Monasticism revolutionary thought and deedsRepublic has inspired in addition to all the expository analysis also countless creative interpretations which have shaped our vision of future possibilities limits and of extremities Many depictions of both utopian societies and their dystopian counterpartsanging from Thomas More s Utopia to Jonathan Swift s Gulliver s Travels to Aldous Huxley s Brave New World to George Orwell s 1984 have their oots in the ideal city brought to life by Socrates Glaucon and Adeimantus Contemporary films such as Gattaca and The Matrix may not owe direct inspiration to Republic but they participate in a long tradition of artistic works that ultimately trace their concerns back to the political social and metaphysical issues aised in RepublicBut in spite of all this back to the political social and metaphysical issues A Kangaroo's Life raised in RepublicBut in spite of all this original worketains a eputation for being difficult and hard to penetrate This has meant that the scholars have or less appropriated this brilliantly composed treatise and that is a pity
is great suspense in every as you eagerly try to work your way through Socrates arguments anticipating now guessing now failing "NOW BUT ALWAYS ON THE EDGE OF YOUR SEATS "but always on the edge of your seats the sparkle of his wit and wisdom The dialogues are constructed with an almost unbelievable care and subtlety The drama is breathtaking and all pervading even in the stock esponses to theoretical or Filosofía e inmanencia rhetorical uestions One is never allowed to sit and absorb passively but is forced to constantly interact with the dialogue It is as much fun toead as a Shakespearean dramaThe Offensive RepublicNow to examine some of the The Monacan Indian Nation of Virginia: The Drums of Life reasons why The Republic offends modern sensibilitiesMuch of the contemporary discomfort with Plato s state arises from his countenancing of censorship aigid caste system etc But these are in a way unfortunate misunderstandings A close eading of the text would make clear that these catch all descriptions of Plato s state are not as epresentative as they are made out to be For example the caste system that is first to get blamed is hardly a Murder in Gutenthal rigid hereditary system but a strict meritocratic system that is much eual than anything that we have seen till date It involves a strict battery of tests similar to the aptitude tests of today based on which every individual is to be judged and opponents of I tests mayelax these are meant to be much practical examinationsAlso the popular endering of the title as The Republic itself is unfortunate giving it an obvious political and ideological overtone In the manuscripts and ancient citations the title of Republic is given as Politeia Constitution or Politeiai Constitutions Peri dikaiou literally concerning that which is just is sometimes listed as an alternative titleThe Misunderstood RepublicI had planned on giving a blow by blow defense of the most eviled aspects of The Republic but that is not the point I wish to make here The primary mistake in criticizing The Republic is to assume that it was meant to be a political treatise in the first place It is not The whole argument begins from a uestion of identifying what Justice is and whether it is beneficial to live a Just Life This is the crux Why and How to be Just and What is this Justice anyway That is what Socrates wants to explore He takes detours in this exploration He uses metaphors of State as larger manifestation of Caves etc But they all lead us back to the same basic uestionTo identify this basic concern we need only look at the complex structure of the dialogue itself Republic s narrative is structured in an almost circular pattern This circular pattern is complex evoking the narrative patterns of epic poems such as Iliad and Odyssey Most basically the dialogue s two main concerns defining justice and ascertaining its On the Field of Glory: an Historical Novel of the Time of King John Sobieski relationship to happiness are treated in two corresponding sections books 2 4 and books 8 9 that are interrupted by what is nominally a series of digressions in books 5 7 and 10 These nomin. Ithin it During the conversation other uestions areaised what is goodness; what is eality; and what is knowledge The Republic also addresses the purpose of education and the ole