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Entranced (The Donovan Legacy, eOf this one novel Redology No joke Inxample a work mentioned in the book Fei Yi Ji Ji Gao a work within a work has ven been studied in detail and the jury of scholars is still out on the origins and authenticity of this work All that said this is a powerful sweeping pic and utterly ngrossing book and it stands in my opinion as probably one of the top ten possibly ven top five works of world literature ver written Why only four stars then This translation and all translations I ve read or xamined appear to have their faults and be overall pretty cumbersome I realize that translators and ditors of a work this complex have their tasks cut out for them and I don t want to see anything done that would mitigate the true flavor of the original yet what seems to happen is that the language winds up somewhere between a faithful replication of the Chinese and something seeming like a bad script writer trying to write dialog as people would have spoken in Bible days In places the novel ven seems like a parody of itself If you thought the dialog in The Good Earth seemed fake and ven comical with all the ah my pretty lotus flower platitudes this book will make you want to tear your hair out If you can get past that it s a treat Excellent Starter Dream of the Red ChamberStory of the Stone two names for the same workThis is an abridged English version of an amazing Chinese novel called Dream of the Red Chamber or Story of the Stone I would recommend reading this if you would like to know the general story which you should as it is one of the most important novels in history This book is HUGE in China it is considered along with one or two other works the pinnacle of Chinese literature And it is much nuanced than the Romeo and Juliet story it is sold as The story is of the downfall of a great house and how it affects the young men and women living there It is remarkable in that it is so much about women at a time when women s lives were considered unimportant It is also defies Confucian s in several ways though adheres to them in others Most points of the author s biography are unknown but it is thought that he belonged to a wealthy family that much like the family in the book came down in the world The book was completed by someone lse It is also a good starter version if you are interested in testing it before you delve into the much longer unabridged version Which really you must read After reading this I read the David Hawkes translation 5 volumeswhich I highly recommendEdit I just wanted to add that the main reason I recommend this book as a starter is that it gave me in many places the same Buried emotional punch as the original which I think it a remarkable achievement considering how greatly it has been condensed Given thentire China is learning English as a second language it s hardly necessary for people in the western countries to study the notoriously difficult Chinese language for business or travel purposes However if there is one reasonable cause to learn Chinese it would be to appreciate this book in its original language which could be the greatest privilege for anyone who speaks ChineseWhat about translations One might askMy answer would be Given the chance I will probably get rid of very last copy of the translated A Dream of Red Mansions Because this legendary masterpiece with its profound beauty and delicate language is fundamentally untranslatable The copy I read was a downloadable Kindle version I could not figure out the translator The total location number was 36403 If I use translator The total location number was 36403 If I use recommended page uivalent converter number of 1669 the page number comes to a little over 2100 number of 1669 the page number comes to a little over 2100 is close to the printed full version page numberAt first I couldn t understand how this book beca One of the greatest masterpieces of literature reading this was an incredible xperience Poignant funny metaphysical tragic allegorical psychologically profound and highly ntertaining it bridges the worlds of heaven AND EARTH DREAMS AND REALITY AND IS A TRULY earth dreams and reality and is a truly achievement Reading does not get any better than this it really is up there with Don uixote The Divine Comedy War and Peace Shakespeare and anything lse you might name As one Western scholar on the work noted to appreciate its position in Chinese culture we must imagine a work with the critical cachet of James Joyce s Ulysses with the popular appeal of Margaret Mitchell s Gone With the Wind and twice as long as the two combinedThere I hate this book and I m ChineseOk hate is a strong word I m repulsed by this book which I viewed as close to godliness in my childhood I hate m little balls of prudishnessSorry about this translators because I think you did a nice job on this book and I m still giving you two stars If I rated on your technicality alone I would give you a solid 3 or 4 I do like the English version in some ways better than the Chinese versions because it s so much normal for lack of a better word I felt that the prose style of the original was awkward and it somehow feels less distorted in the English version to a degree This is because Xuein used vernacular Chinese in composing his proses Vernacular is straightforward asily comprehensible brash raw characteristic and should remind me somewhat warmly of my Chinese neighboursBut Xuein changed it all He wrote in vernacular but all of his characters dialogues were so highly organized so refined so grammatically correct it simply feels artificial as if he made several rough drafts of one conversation before inserting them into the characters mouths He leganized the beautiful spontaneous street talk of vernacular I hated that It s like somebody decided to Shakespearize Dickens English feels much normal for some reason bringing forthwith unconscious magnitude in the dialogue Then again English also concealed the brilliancy of the original proses and descriptions so there are wins and lossesNext I have a problem with the central themes which cannot be changed with translation Due to its uncertainty of themes the book can be read as a surreal poetic metaphor or a realistic piece of fiction But when you actually think about it the plot boils down to this rich noble bastards party hard Party crashes Go homeAnd it talks about this for roughly 80 chapters before we lose the original manuscript and read the flawed 40 chapters This unfinished ness added to the mysticism surrounding the book Deten Verfall ines dlen großen Geschlechts das schließlich dank der sittlichen und. WHAT EVERY EDUCATED CITIZEN OF THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW IN THE 21ST CENTURY THE GREAT CLASSICAL NOVELS OF CHINA THE DREAM OF RED MANSIONS BY CAO XUEIN THE JOURNEY TO THE WEST BY WU CHENGEN THE ROMANCE OF THE THREE KINGDOMS by LUO GUANZHONG THE WATER MARGIN or ALL MEN ARE BROTHERS by SHI NAI AN THE SCHOLARS BY WU JINGZI AND THE EROTIC CLASSIC THE JIN PING MEI OR GOLDEN LOTUS FROM THE WORLD LITERATURE FORUM RECOMMENDED CLASSICS AND MASTERPIECES SERIES VIA GOODREADS ROBERT SHEPPARD EDITOR IN CHIEFChinese culture is renown for its addiction to compiling Lists of the Greats from the Four Great Inventions of China Paper the Comnpass Printing and Gunpowder to the Four Great Beautiful Women Yang Guifei Xi Shi Yang Jiaojun and Diaochan to the Three Great Tang Dynasty Poets Li Bai Li Po Du Fu and Wang Wei to the Four Great Novels of Chinese Literature Thus very ducated Chinese person was xpected to have read or at least to have thouroughly read about The Four Great Novels The ing Dynasty Classic the Hong Lou Meng or The Dream of Red Mansions by Cao Xuein the Xi You Ji or Journey to the West by Wu Chengen featuring the fabulous Monkey King Sun Wukong the great historical pic The Romance of the Three Kingdoms by Luo Guanzhong and the classic Robin Hood tale of gallant outlaws Shui Hu Zhuan or The Water Margin by Shi Nai an Chinese scholars generally added two additional novels as an Apocrypha to this Canonic Prose Bible of The Four Great Novels which officially you shouldn t have read like the Maruis de Sade or Lady Chatterly s Lover in the West but which if you were a real intellectual you definitely should have The rotic classic the Jin Ping Mei or The Golden Lotus which was xcluded from inclusion in the canon because of its sexual immoral and pornographic content despite its admitted literary xcellence and the Ru Lin Wai Shi or The Scholars by Wu Jingzi also downgraded from classical status due to its bohemian counter cultural satire on and rejection of traditional Confucian scholars and xamination passing officials as mindless conformists and intellectual ciphers In the not so remote past ducation centered on learning the cultural tradition of one s own nation was assumed to be an adeuate foundation for functional adulthood and citizenship Thus Chinese scholars concentrated on the Confucian heritage and with little ffort given to understanding other civilizations and traditions Christians were content with the Bible and their own national classics and Islamic nations were happy if one could recite the Koran by heart In today s cosmopolitan globalized world of transnational business and the Internet familiarity with one s own national history national culture and literature is no longer an adeuate preparation for adult life in the globalized real world Thus The Power Of A Choice eachducated person in the modern world must have a basic familiarity with World Literature in addition to his own national or regional literature accompanied of course with a basic knowledge of World History World Religions World Philosophy and universal science With the increasing importance of a Rising China in world affairs and culture it is thus incumbent on very ducated person in the world to have some basic familiarity with these six classic The truth is that if not for my Asian Literatures class I wouldn t have mustered nough strength despite interest to read this novel And I am particularly drawn to the idea forwarded by some academics that Hong Lou Meng is actually a critiue to the reception of the public to fiction and perhaps to reading in general Also it is a counter to the idea that in fiction and perhaps to reading in general Also it is a counter to the idea that in to attain nlightenment one must transcend the The Case for Paleolibertarianism and Realignment on the Right everyday world A monk makes a stone nod The stone is cast away by the Goddess And yet in Hong Lou Meng thexact opposite happens The stone that has been cast off goes into the Red Dust and lives a mundane life as Chia Pao Yu Upon death his story was carved on his surface and stands proud and visible as a mockery to the Goddess rejection of him The story through presenting the Oh My God, What a Complete Aisling everyday life of people shows the reader that a full life annlightened life can be xperienced through the mundane Guardian articleRead the novel here Hattip to WandafulOpening Chen Shih yin in a vision apprehends perception and spirituality Chia Y ts un in the windy and dusty world cherishes fond thoughts of a beautiful maidenThis is the opening sectio I just re read this classic of Chinese literature as it s been years since I first read it The Dream of the Red ChamberStory of the Stone is unlike any work in the Western canon yet it fits into the Western tradition of great literature in a way few other xamples of classic Chinese writing are able to offering an ngrossive narrative and a real feel for both character and place There Are Aspects Of are aspects of novel that may confuse the modern reader of it in English translation the many titles and nicknames used for various characters the cuts and transitions that are in places unlike Western narrative and a wealth of Chinese traditions manners and morals that will due to their xoticism and antiuity alike will confound a reader not already aware of ing Dynansty history and culture That said this book is as influential to Chinese culture as Dickens or Austen are to British culture and in movies pop music and certainly contemporary Chinese literature you ll still ncounter references to Dream of the Red ChamberThe plot of the novel follows the lives of the Rongguo House and the Ningguo House of the noble and wealthy Jia clan and thus the drama and intrigue visited on these powerful families Much of the mphasis is on plans to marry a son or daughter off to someone or who has the power in a certain household If you njoy Jane Austen after getting over the cultural differnces and obscure way the story is told magic factors in a great deal and sometimes it s hard to pin down what is metaphorical and what is supposed to be actual you ll probably njoy this book In saying that I do not mean to scare away readers nor to cite the cultural and historical differences as a problem or marker of something less thanor abnormal but it must be understood that due to the specifics of the ing Dynasty plus various Dare to Lead: Brave Work. Tough Conversations. Whole Hearts. editions of the novel and additions by various authors andditors the book s study has become so complex and nuanced that there is ven a name for the academic field of investigation. Inhalt des Traums der roten Kammer ist die Geschichte vom Glanz und vom selbstverschul.

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Nd is a major topic still in modern Redology Then this book is hailed as the height of Chinese literatureDot dot dot To be honest the plot was good It still is good The ideas and philosophies are not It stereotypes men and women to a huge degree with its kind of reversal sexism appeal I specially had a problem with the author s ranking of women in the 5th chapter ven if it is meant simply as a way of introducing dramatis personae you can t ignore that Jing Huan Goddess proclaimed it herself that only the BEST women are recorded and the rest of the COMMON VULGAR women are not Who the hell does she or the author think they are For some reason some see the book as a novel of feminism while it had minimum impact on the Chinese feminist movement For another they see it as a hidden way of xpressing political satire In this case take the book off the classics shelf now why should we waste time on an author who doesn t Glitter Bomb (A Scrapbooking Mystery, even want to sit down and write a proper story Another proclaim the book is mainlymphasizing the Buddhism idea of Kong Huan in that Il morto di Maigret everythingven the most beautiful ventually amounts to nothing The author does a bad job of this if that is the case because his sadness his losses and his flames are uite trivial and does not match up to the greater kindness and understanding of Buddhism As I was reading it through in the future I couldn t help but feel as if the author is writing these 80 chapters feeling narcissist ly sorry for himself There are a lot of unparalleled stories in the book though that outmatch the author s contemporaries Unfortunately not very story is of ual uality specially when you see how narrow the book s world really is It s constraining to see these young people shut up in a false paradise wasting their lives away Worst of all the author seems to take Globalization: A Multi-Dimensional System, Third Edition enjoyment in it too alongside his forgotten sadness He beautified aspects of life that one would feel uncomfortable with forxample it s okay for young girls to throw temper tantrums because she s young beautiful but apparently it s not okay for old women to throw tantrums because they re inferior to younger virgin girls Whut He also did not really show the intensity of corruptive activities in the familiesLast of all comes the poetry The poetry is greatly Billionaires Contract Engagement (Kings of the Boardroom emphasized in this novel but upon reading it it becomes clear that ing dynasty poems were on the decline The poems in the novel are mostlegantly and skillfully composed Yet they lack creativity originality and sophistication The poems are mainly concerning Sexual Secrets either of themptiness of human life or mourning about the again most trivial things such as flowers plants people tc The grandeur mysticism of Tang Spring and Autumn and Three Kingdoms ra poets are sadly failing in the hands of ing poets and only begins to revive a little within chapter 78 in which Bao Yu composes a Song and a mournful Rhapsody which were the loveliest to read Well the author can t really make the poems great considering they come out of the hands of adolescents and the poems are the best parts of the book the main reason why I go back to read it today Overall technically speaking this book is not bad standing alone Yet it has achieved nearly national veneration in Chinese
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and I not uite sure if it should be In terms of surreal and romantic aestheticism it does not match up to Genji Japanese but arlier than this book by 700 years If Murasaki can do it why not Xuein in terms of realism and plotting wobbles before Plum of the Golden Vase in terms of philosophy and mysticism I think loses to Journey to the West 100 Strange Stories the Carnal Prayer Mat and Tale of Scholars at the top of my head The book s surpassing virtue is its delicate poetry sense of dreaminess and scattered cryptic messages which no one will ver be able to sort Nevertheless one does admire his strength of weaving stories and feels sorry that they could not read the completed work but it is not the best Zhuangzi said that the desire for money is difficult to overcome but the desire for fame is difficult Well how about love Many believe that The Dream of the Red Chamber is mblematic of the climax of Chinese literature I do think it is the best Chinese novel but I wouldn t say it is the mblem because it departs greatly from the convention of Chinese literature and aims to reveal the hypocrisy of this convention which is its feigned integrity and disregard for love It is through the lens of love that Cao Xuein reveals to the readers the dilemma tragedy and general condition of human life It is hard to describe how much this book means to me It not only defines how I understand my national identity but also serves as a foundation for my cognition and interpretation of almost Purely Sexual everything Many times when life tosses me a certain peculiarity or uneasiness I would remember and contemplate on a scene a prose a uotation or a general idea about the fate of one of the character in this book and suddenly I would feelasier and say to myself this is life The Dream of the red chamber isn t very popular among western Chamber isn t very popular among Western and most well read people on GR have never heard of this book and The West Transformed: A History of Western Civilization, Vol 1, to 1715 even those who appreciate Chinese literature ignore it probably finding it too long too difficult too boring someoneven said it s unaesthetic I ve heard people comparing it to The Plum in the Golden Vase or categorizing it as a book about teenage relationships So I find it necessary to clarify that The Dream of the Red Chamber is objectively the single most important literary work in the history of Chinese literature or ven one can say East Asian literature It is important to Chinese literature than Shakespeare is to English literature It is ridiculous to think that you know Chinese literatureculturephilosophy without having read this book ven though I know that most people in China no longer read this Hundreds and thousands of scholars have devoted their lives to the study of very single word of this work For many admirers for Cao Xuein myself included we would be willing to sacrifice many years of our lives if we could read the original nding of this work which has been unfortunately lost I consider it beyond my ability to review this book specially in the language of English so all I can do is an advertisement This is the book to read if you want to ncounter Chinese mentality at its most powerful intricate insightful and sincere for. Geistigen Hochleistung ines an sich ntarteten Sprößlings wieder zu Aufstieg gelan. .
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